Dustcatchers

There are about a dozen threads about this already; you might be better off commenting in one of those rather than starting another that is just going to confuse things.

With no search tool it is very hard to find these threads.

Not to be rude, but had you scrolled down you would have seen all of them. The most recently commented one is still visible even without scrolling unless you're on an 800x600 resolution screen.

The majority of people seem to agree that they don't like this, but because the majority of people on the forum are 1) bad at organizing and 2) bad at explaining what exactly it is they don't like about it, Reed (the creator) keeps responding the same way without grasping the actual meaning behind the complaints. Some progress has actually been made as far as getting him to acknowledge that tweaking needs to occur.

There are way more reasons that a drawing can be hard other than it's not a meme, and in fact some of the most banal memes are kind of difficult to draw and are some of the very things getting caught in the dust catcher.

The thing with the dust catcher is it takes a ridiculous amount of people skipping the same thing. The dust catcher wasn't meant for anything other than to ease congestion created by games getting caught in limbo because they never progressed since people never drew it.

And if you tell me that "All Avengers Versus Xmen" or large things with crowds should be drawn or any number of things listed in this thread http://drawception.com/forums/general/4971/avoiding-the-dustcatcher/ that they should still be drawn, then you're just as bad as saying something should be whittled down to the common denominator.

There are two extremes to this feature and the fact of the matter is that both extremes are completely unwilling to listen to the other side because of the way the other is communicating. This makes it extremely frustrating for people who are witnessing the miscommunication and trying for a compromise that works for both parties.

http://drawception.com/viewgame/YpZQ8LEmyG/teach-a-stripper-to-strip/

And why exactly did you link that?

I think we should be given the option to de-activate the dustcatcher thing when we create games.

First thing I saw a post on asking a question about them regarding game counts, but my point was a wholly separate topic. That was the only thread about them I saw on the first page of the forums.

Secondly in response to any phrase, hard or not, abstraction is always the answer. I may not be level 50 or anything but since I have been playing EPYC since I was 12 years old that has always been what occurs. If the phrase was "All Avengers Versus Xmen" you obviously do not draw it literally, instead you could draw a giant X with human traits fighting one avenger or fighting an avenger jet. If you are trying to literally interpret sentences then you are playing the game wrong.

Some of the funniest EPYC games I still own to this day involve phrases like "The Ecclipitcal Nature of a dead duck" or "A portrait of Queen Elizabeth II with her Corgis" These phrases of course were not drawn literally and would have been skipped no doubt by the dustcatcher system. The system is controlling not merely for simple, but for the banal. There is no such thing as a hard sentence only people who are too un-creative or lazy to come up with a way to deal with abstracting complex sentences,

All games should be played, and if you can't draw something exactly, then you draw abstract.

Also look at my art its not good, I'm no artist, but that does not preclude by ability to deal with complex sentences by making abstract images.

So you decided to make it clear you're in the "all things must be drawn, my description is sacred" camp that taekwondogirl was talking about. I can also tell you think your opinion is more important than other people's by the simple fact that you had to start your own thread about this subject.

Get over it. Thats the way YOU think it should be played. No one is "playing the game wrong" as you suggest. The fact is there has to be a balance because there's players like you, and there's players that like simple, fast moving games that they dont have to skip for 20 minutes to find.

I'll try to make this clear for you so you don't missrepresent my argument again. If you wanted to play chess with a house rule that pawns could move 4 spaces on the first turn you would be obviously playing a variant and one not intended in the game.

Drawception is based on epyc or picture telegram as it is sometimes called. In those rules all Sentences must be played and abstraction is always the answer. Obviously dustcatchers or avoiding sentences is a variant and not the original rules. Before someone comments that Drawception is =/= epyc I will say true except multiple recent changes such as ending in a sentence have made it clear the designer wants it to be epyc like.

Now back to chess. There are a lot of chess variants but why do we play the main rules? Because those have been tested and perfected for hundreds of years. The rules of epyc are nearly 11 years old they also have been tested and perfected. Every sentence played, abstraction can always be the answer, begin in a sentence end in a sentence are the ways it has always been played and how it should keep being played. My opinion has nothing to do with the rules themselves only with how the rules should be applied.

Secondly as I made it clear several times already when I posted there was only one other thread and it was asking about the mechanics of dustcatchers not a discussion of their viabillity. Perhaps now it as evolved to such a discussion but I assumed at the time my post would have been off topic. The hostility in which people retort to me making a thread is quite unreasonable for them not being mods.

That aren't any original rules.

This is a new game which is based on another. It's not meant to be the same.